来源:《Runner’s World》杂志 2009.6      作者:Noah Rothbaum      翻译:西西

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妳还在温哥华吗?

我现在在新墨西哥州拍电影﹝与Denzel Washington合作的《末日天书(The Book of Eli)》﹞。我说过这里的海拔有点高吗?我虽然一点也不觉得累,但却觉得像只被人从水里抓出来的鱼,渴望着空气、试着吸进氧气。我还是不太习惯在没有树的旷野中跑步,稀薄的氧气着实让我吃尽苦头。

 

妳认为跑步确能帮助妳演戏吗?

跑步确实帮助你保持身材,因为它让你精力充沛。昨天,我和Gary Oldman有场激烈的争执戏,我知道若我的身体不在状况中肯定很难办到。运动真的可以帮助人更熟悉自己,当我不需要药物就可以生下我的女儿时,我想我大概能够打入耐力赛的世界。我想:“嗯,如果我连那个都可以办到,说不定我可以参加铁人三项。”没有什么事比生小孩更剧烈的了。

 

我希望妳曾经历过的赛跑没有比生小孩更痛苦了。I'm A Runner- Jennifer Beals

显然是,不过﹝如果是赛跑﹞妳不会在终点抱到一个小婴儿。在跑步当中得到的群体经验是最让我珍惜的,真的很棒!我们都选择参与这样的激烈运动,而大家将一起完成,对我来说,这实在是很棒!尤其是半程马拉松﹝注:约21公里﹞,当然我想马拉松﹝注:约42公里﹞肯定也是。你决定要做这件将会累垮人到一个无法想象地步的事,而这却也是最令人感到愉悦的经验,因为每个人都会参与其中,每个人就像在支持彼此般地跑完全程。大家彼此扶持着,彼此关心、彼此照顾。

 

当妳在拍摄《末日天书》时,也常跑步吗?
我不会说是“很多”,不像我为了某个赛事而去作准备那样,因为我在拍电影。如果我在这里过于运动,就会累坏,所以一星期中我就只跑个几回。

 

妳曾经和共演的Denzel Washington一起去跑步吗?
天啊!不。不过我们其中的一位制作人倒是铁人三项的能手,我有点觉得我大部份的跑步都像在为铁人三项作准备一样。我也不清楚,有时候我觉得我是为了跑步而跑,但有时候却像是刚从自行车上下来那样在跑。

 

妳一直跑步吗?

看情形啰!如果妳是指长跑的话,不是,因为我是直到去年夏天才参加半程马拉松,而那也只像是放入了更多的哩程数进去罢了,没有太困难。然后,当我开始铁人三项后,跑步就有点像是在平衡其他两项,于是我没那么常跑,而这也让我感觉跑步变得和骑自行车非常不一样。

 

通常一个星期妳跑多少步?

跑步是和我的生活紧密连结的,但因为我常旅行,没有所谓的 “通常”。当我在温哥华拍《The L Word》时,我一星期大概跑个三四次、5公里到10公里左右的距离。有时我会和我其中一只狗一起跑,好玩罢了!我很喜欢跟我的狗一起跑步,因为牠们在跑步时总是很开心,那是我很珍惜的。我有两只狗,牠们都老了,但牠们可以跟我一起跑个15公里没问题。

 

妳会在跑步机上跑吗?

我只有在想要测自己可以跑多快时才会站上跑步机,跑步机是个很必要的工具呀!我也是营养补给品的忠实信徒,红景天是痊愈的一大帮手,它被用在很多地方,我最初会发现它是因为它是我的狗的药剂处方,自此我发现很多跑者和运动员也都服用这个,因为它是很好的消炎剂,鳕鱼油也是。

 

妳在洛杉矶时有特别的慢跑路线吗?

当我在洛杉矶时,我通常在Griffith公园跑步,但就是必须注意有无蛇出没。我曾经看过超大的响尾蛇﹝注:还不只一条,JB用了复数﹞在路上,而我只好妥协地绕开。在洛杉矶,对这种事其实都习惯了,不管是在登山、跑步或是外出,都要很小心。

 

当妳外出跑步时,有人认出妳吗?

有啊!你知道吗?就像你正要热死的时候…当我在为15公里或16公里作训练、就在正要挂了的时候,有人认出我想要跟我说话,我…我没办法呀!抱歉!我现在就是无法说话,我就只是一个在运动中的休闲跑者。

 

我读到关于妳想跑马拉松这事…?

是的,有几次在纽约马拉松赛事期间,我人正好在纽约,这让我有冲动去参加纽约马拉松。但因为我是芝加哥人,我比较想参加芝加哥马拉松,但问题出在天气,芝加哥可以变得很热,而我讨厌高温。

 

妳听音乐吗?﹝指跑步时﹞

我不用iPod的,我不能,﹝边跑步边听音乐﹞让我不是那么自在。但我倒是在骑自行车时会听iPod。我不是个自行车能手,我试着让自行车成为我的朋友,但目前为止它还不是,而iPod正好稍稍纾解了我骑自行车的痛苦。

 

铁人三项里,妳最喜欢哪一个项目?

我想我渐渐喜欢上游泳了!但跑步实在是有股说不出的快乐,就像回到家那样,尤其是在精疲力尽的前5公里之后﹝注:铁人三项前5公里为游泳。

 

妳的家人能理解妳跑步这件事吗?

我丈夫渐渐能了解了,然后是我女儿。每当我参加任何路跑时,不管是5公里、10公里或15公里好,再次适应如何和别人一起跑步。我很不习惯跟别人一起跑步,那让我神经紧绷,甚至到了害怕的程度。我第一次参加赛跑时,我发誓我在走向起跑线时差一点就哭出来了,因为我被人群围着时感到异常紧张。在开始前,我和同组的人一起站在起跑在线,身边满是人让我感到异常压迫,我几乎就要哭出来了!但那场赛事却转而成为我一次美好的团队体验,那是在温哥华的一场赛事。

 

那是妳第一次参加赛跑吗?

是的,而我在其中不断地提醒自己:我是用自己的脚步在跑、不要试着去跟随别人的步伐,这是属于妳自己的旅程、不是别人的。

 

妳在哪里完成了半程马拉松?

在温哥华。我原先打算花少于2小时15分完成,但我其实花了不到2小时﹝1小时57分53秒 ﹞。从那之后,我开始想:“如果我能更好地补充水分,说不定我能跑得更快!在那段我慢下来的地方,说不定就可以多跑一些。”在赛事的前一星期,我已经在一座山丘上做过类似的练习,在我的脑海中,我试着把那座山丘想得更加雄伟,其实这山丘没那么大,但你也会因为身边有一大堆人而变得异常兴奋。

 

那是什么时候的事?

去年6月(注:2008年)。我在跑步时,我女儿还大叫:“妈妈,抬起妳的膝盖!”太好玩了!她现在3岁、当时2岁。当时我们正要横过一个场地,你也知道,跑得更快的秘诀就是抬起你的膝盖;而我们在场上踉跄而行,让她想起这秘诀,所以她在场边当起教练指导起我来。当然,她说这话的时候,正好是我完全没办法提起自己膝盖的时候,那让我笑了。

 

妳那时有特别定下怎么样的时间目标吗?
没有,我没有定什么时间目标。对我来说,跑步是自由的。我发现我越轻松自在时跑得越快,我跑步时不带手表的。我几乎都在步道﹝注:trail,美国会有特别为慢跑者和自行车所设计的步道﹞上跑有几个理由:一是这样可以保护我的膝盖;二是那可以激发我的想象力,这是在路上跑步时办不到的。

 

妳在《The L Word》里的合作演员有到场吗?

有呀!我第一次在九月参加奥林匹克规格的铁人三项时,Mia Kirshner﹝饰演Jenny Schecter﹞来看我,而Elizabeth Berkley﹝饰演Kelly﹞则在终点在线等我。Alexandra Hedison﹝饰演Dylan﹞对我很好,她有天早上七点陪我一起去游泳,纯粹为了帮助我除去对在开放水域游泳的恐惧。事实上,是Mia害我陷入铁人三项的,她先前参加了一个短途铁人三项,然后她对我说:“妳一定要去试试看!”于是,去年9月我参加了生平第一个奥林匹克规格的铁人三项,然后就上瘾了。

 

在《The L Word》团队里,有跑步这习惯吗?

Laurel Holloman也是跑步的,我想她跑得很快,她经常跑。然后是Mia,尽管她不像我这样疯狂着迷。没有什么事是完美的,至少在我的经验里没有。

 

妳曾跟合作的演员聊过跑步吗?

没有,我想她们还处于被我用铁人三项轰炸的状态,大部份的人反应是:“为什么?去喝杯拿铁,今天就到此为止吧!”

 

妳吃Gu吗?注:一种运动口香糖,让人在运动时补充能量

我才刚发现有Gu这东西,我爱它!我在上一次赛事时才知道这东西,我太爱它了!

 

妳有喜欢的口味吗?

柠檬口味。

 

妳参加过几次赛事?
我不知道,我已经没在数了,但我确定 我可以用两手仔细数出来啦!我之前习惯把我所有的背号贴在我办公室的墙上,好提醒自己曾经参加过的比赛,但到了某一个地步,整面墙上全都是我的背号了!那实在是太疯狂了!还有,他们因为你还活着而颁给你的那小小的半程马拉松奖牌,我问我女儿要不要拿去玩玩,她说:“不要,我改天会拿到我自己的!”我回答: “妳一定可以的!”

 

第一次赛跑是多久以前?

我第一次参加赛跑是3年前的母亲节。

 

在半程马拉松后,妳如何庆祝?

我四处跳来跳去,我实在是太兴奋了!我觉得我可以继续跑!我就是太兴奋了,然后觉得自己还可以再跑。我在温哥华和Mia Kirshner一起参加10公里的竞走,但因为我就是还想继续跑,所以我跑回人群里去找Mia,然后再一起跑到终点。就是一种很想一直跑的感觉,我确信如果我是跑马拉松的话,应该就不会这样了。

 

妳是否觉得很难找到时间跑步?

绝对是,太可笑了!而我总是没有时间。

 

妳如何激励自己?

我试着不要那么严刻地看待,因为我希望这是件愉悦的事。如果我不太想跑步时,我会说那我们就去树林间走走、享受在步道上被树拥抱的感觉吧!就只是出去走走。但不变的是,每当我在步道上,看到景色这么漂亮,我就会想跑起来。不是硬把自己赶上架子,因为我不想那样地跑步,我不想成为那样的人,我想让跑步单单是自由与喜乐。

 

妳跑步时会带什么东西吗?

我不喜欢带任何东西,我一向在跑步前疯狂地补充水份。除非我会跑超过一小时以上,不然我不会带任何东西,我就是想要感觉我好像什么都没有。

 

妳是个会带上小玩意跑步的人吗?意指带上iPod之类的东西

不,我之所以喜欢跑步就是因为你不需要很多东西,只要有双好鞋就可以。

 

妳穿什么样的鞋?

New Balance有双我喜欢的鞋,但我不记得型号了,我今天才去看过我的鞋,但我已经穿到把上面的号码给磨掉了,那是双轻巧的慢跑鞋。多年前,大概10多年前,Adidas有双极棒的慢跑鞋,但后来停产了,你还真不知道为什么!那实在是太糟了,因为你必须重头适应一次。

 

妳在跑步后如何报偿自己?
跑步本身就是报酬呀!我用跑步来报偿自己完成其他的事;跑步对我来说,就是比萨或啤酒!
我可以说,能这样畅快地谈跑步而不用觉得愧疚实在让我太高兴了吗?我觉得我就像个笨蛋一样!因为能跟我谈跑步或铁人三项的人实在不多。
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自1983年的电影处女作《闪舞》后,Beals参与了32部电影演出,近年来她领衔主演了Showtime的连续剧《The L Word》。

 

~~~~杂志原文

Are you still in Vancouver?

I’m in New Mexico now, working on a movie [The Book of Eli with Denzel Washington]. Did I mention there’s a higher altitude here. I don’t feel tired. I just feel like I’m a fish you’ve taken out of water. Gulping for air. Trying to get oxygen. I’m not accustomed to running in the open without trees. And the oxygen deprivation kicks my butt.

Have you found that running helps with your acting?

It helps you certainly to be fit because it gives you energy. Yesterday, I had this grueling fight scene with Gary Oldman. I know that it would have been much more difficult to do if I wasn’t in shape. And the exercise helps you become more acquainted with yourself. I realized that I could perhaps enter into the world of endurance sports after I gave birth to my daughter without drugs. I thought, “Well if I could do that then maybe I could do a triathlon.” There’s nothing that’s going to be more intense than that.

I hope the races you’ve done have been less painful than giving birth.

By far but, of course, you don’t get a baby at the end. What I do appreciate about racing is this collective experience. It’s really amazing. We’ve all chosen to go through this very intense experience. And you’re doing it all together. It’s fascinating to me. Especially with a half-marathon and I would imagine a marathon too. You’re deciding to do this incredibly grueling thing. It’s a really lovely experience and you do it together. You’re kind of supporting one another and the way that people will support you throughout the run. You support one another. The milk of human kindness.
Have you been doing a lot of running while filming The Book of Eli?

I wouldn’t say a lot. Not as if I’m training for an event. Because I’m working on the movie. If I run or workout too much here I do feel worn down. So, I’ll run a few times a week.

Have you gone running with your co-star Denzel Washington?

Gosh no. But one of our producers is a hardcore triathlete. I feel like a lot of my running is about incorporating it into a triathlon. I don’t know. Sometimes I feel like I’m running for running and other times it’s running after I get off the bike.

Have you always been a runner?

That depends. Not long if you’re talking about long races, since I just did a half marathon last summer. So that was just about getting the mileage in to do that without suffering through the race. And then when I started doing triathlons it was to balance out the rest. So I’m not running quite as often but it feels like a different animal than getting on the bike.

In a typical week how much do you run?

The thing is with my life, since I travel so much, there is no such thing as a typical week. When I was working on The L Word in Vancouver, I ran three or four times a week, between five and 10 kilometers. Sometime I would run with one of my dogs for fun. I really love to run with the dogs because there’s a joy of running that they have, which I want to keep for myself. I have two dogs. They’re older but they would go 15-K with me.

Do you run on a treadmill?

The treadmill is the only time where I’m clocking how fast I’m going. The treadmill is a necessary tool. I’m a big believer in supplements too. Rhodiola has been really helpful in terms of healing. Rhodiola is used for a lot of different things. I originally discovered it because it was prescribed for my dogs. I have since discovered a lot of runners and a lot of athletes use it because it’s an anti-inflammatory the same was that codfish oil is an anti-inflammatory.

Are there running routes you do in LA?

When I’m in Los Angeles, I usually run in Griffith Park. You just have to keep an eye out for snakes. I’ve seen gigantic rattlesnakes cross the trail that I had to negotiate my way around. In LA you get used to it. You pay attention when you’re hiking or running or whenever you’re out.

Do people ever recognize you when you’re running?

Yeah. You know when you’re dying like from heat. When I was training for a 15- or 16-K and I was ready to die and somebody recognized me and wanted to talk. I’m like I can’t. I’m sorry. I just can’t right now. I am a completely recreational, middle of the pack runner.

I read that you want to do a marathon?

Yes, I would. I’ve been in New York during the New York Marathon a couple of times and I would like to do the New York Marathon. But I’m from Chicago, so I would really love to do the Chicago Marathon. The problem is the weather. Chicago can turn hot, and I hate the heat.

Do you listen to music?

I don’t use an iPod. I can’t. I don’t feel as free. I use it when I bike. I’m not a big biker. I’m really a terrible biker. I’m trying to make the bike my friend. But so far it’s not my friend. The iPod alleviates the pain when I’m biking.

Do you have a favorite leg of the triathlon?

I’ve really have come to love the swim. But there’s something very joyful about the run. You’re coming home. You’re kind of slogging through the first 5-K.

Does your family understand your running?

My husband has come to understand it. And my daughter, when I do any kind of road race—5-, 10-, or 15-Ks—to get used to running with people again. I’m so unaccustomed to running with other people that it’s an oddly emotional experience. I was terrified of it initially. The first time I had ever done a race and I swear I almost started crying on the way to the start because I was so nervous about being around other people. Before they started the race standing in line in my group I almost like crying because it’s so intense being around all these people. But it turned into such a lovely collective experience. And now I really enjoy it. That race was in Vancouver.

That was your first race?

Yeah. And I really focused on reminding myself I was running my race and not trying to keep pace with somebody. It’s about your journey it’s not about everybody else’s journey.

Where was the half marathon that you competed in?

I did my first half-marathon in Vancouver. I just wanted to get in by 2:15, and I finished under two hours (1:57:53). Afterward I started thinking, “Maybe if I had hydrated more, I could have gone faster. And maybe that section of the race where I was holding back maybe if I had let go a bit.” I had done the course a week before and there’s a hill and during the race in my mind I made the hill bigger than it was. It didn’t feel that big. But you’re also running off the adrenaline of everybody around you.

When was that?

Last June. And during the race, my daughter yelled out, “Pick up your knees, Mama!” So funny. She’s three and she was two at the time. We would run across a field together and you know the real secret to going faster is to pick up your knees. We would goof around on the field, so she would remember it. So, she’s coaching me on the sidelines. And of course, she was saying this at a moment when picking up my knees felt like the most impossible thing to do. It makes me laugh.

Were you shooting for a specific time?

No, I wasn’t shooting for time. For me running is about freedom. I find that the freer I feel, the faster I am. I don’t wear a watch when I run. I run almost exclusively on trails for a couple of reasons, one is to save my joints and two it ignites my imagination in a way that running on a road doesn’t.

Do any of your L-Word cast mates come out?

Well yeah. I did an Olympic triathlon for the first time in September and Mia Kirshner was there and Elizabeth Berkley was there at the finish line. And Alexandra Hedison, who had been so great. She went swimming with me at seven one morning to try to help me get over any kind of fear of open-water swimming. Mia actually got me into triathlons. She did a sprint triathlon, and she was like, “You have to try it.” So I did my first Olympic-distance triathlon last September. Then I got addicted.

Is there a running culture on the L-Word?

Laurel Holloman is a runner. She’s fast I think. She runs a lot. And Mia. Although she didn’t get addicted like I have. There’s no way to perfect the whole thing. At least not in my realm of experience.

Do you ever talk running with your cast mates?

No. I think they’re still tired of hearing me talk about triathlon. Most of the cast are like why?
Go have a latte and call it a day.

Do you use Gu?

I only just discovered Gu and I love Gu. I just discovered it the last race. I just love it.

Is there a flavor you like?

The lemon one.

How many races have you run?

I don’t know I stopped counting. I’m sure I could count them on both hands. I used to put the bib numbers on my wall in my office to remind me that I did it. Then at a certain point, the whole wall was decorated with bib numbers it’s crazy. And the little half marathon medal that they give you because you’re still alive, I asked my daughter if she would like to play with it, and she said, “No, I’ll get one of my own.” I said, “No doubt.”
How long ago was that first race?

The first race I did was on Mother’s Day three years ago.

How did you celebrate after the half-marathon?

I jumped around I was so excited. I felt like I could run more. I was just so high all I wanted to do was run more. I did a 10-K turkey trot in Vancouver with Mia Kirshner and I just wanted to keep running so I ran back through the crowd to go find Mia so we could run the last bit together. It’s that feeling you just want to keep running. I’m sure I won’t feel that way when I do a marathon.

Do you find it hard to get in the running?

Yes. Absolutely. It’s ridiculous. And I never have time.

How do you motivate yourself?

I try not to be very rigid about it. I really want it to be about joy. And if I am resisting it then I’ll just say we’ll go walk in the woods now and enjoy being in the trees on the trail. I’ll just set out for a walk. Invariably, I get on a trail and it’s so beautiful, I just want to run. It’s not to beat myself up. I don’t want to be that runner. I don’t want to be that person. I want it to be about freedom and joy.

Do you carry anything with you when you run?

I don’t like to carry anything. I really like to hydrate like crazy before I go. And unless I’m going for longer than an hour then I don’t have anything. I just want to feel like I have nothing.

Are you a gadget runner?

No. What I like about running is that you don’t need a lot of gadgets. Just the right shoe.

What kind of shoe do you wear?

New Balance has a shoe and I don’t remember the number and I went to look at the number on my shoe today and had I just wore the number out of it. It’s a light trail shoe. Ages ago, over ten years ago adidas made a great trail shoe and they discontinued it. You kind of just go why?

It’s horrible because you have to start all over again.

How do you reward yourself after a run?

The run is the reward. I reward myself in other ways with the run. The run is like my pizza or beer.

Can I just say how thrilled I am to be able to talk about running and not feel guilty about it. I feel like such a nerd. There are very few people that I can talk to about running or the triathlons.

 

Since her Flashdance debut in 1983, Beals has appeared in 32 movies. Recently she starred in the Showtime series The L Word.